Roger's guide to improving DFGT feedback speed

[Roger_Shrubz]

Yo all!, I ended modding my wheel and I thought I would make a guide as I could not find a clear guide.

Enjoy!

any problems or questions - Skype: Roger_Shrubz

























































Instead of using straight pins, use a large paper clip or something that can be bent around to stop the paperclip/pins falling out (I have had it already happen with pins coming out)




















Round 4 - the best way to bond gear.


Let me know hope happy you are with the improved feedback speed

(faster than a g27 now)


Video of the wheel running as requested by people:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWCfsr-JAQM


cheers

Roger

[pano]

do not eat nails roger ;D hehe
niceeee bro

[Roger_Shrubz]

hehehehe I will try my best not to!

only 10 more hours to wait for resin to go off



Edit:

TO EVERYONE I HAVE UPDATED THE GUIDE WITH 2 EXTRA PICTURES AT END SHOWING HOW I BONDED GEAR TO MOTOR SHAFT

[Roger_Shrubz]

added a video link at bottom of my 1st post.

here it is again just incase

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWCfsr-JAQM



thanks

Roger

[Roger_Shrubz]

Ok, I have added my final attempt to bond gear to motor shaft, this has 2 pins holding the gears together and resin around teeth to 100% secure it.


Roger

[Yankoo™]

Great step by step guide, easy to understand.

[daveb948576]

May 27, 2013 22:49:41 GMT 1 Roger_Shrubz said:

Ok, I have added my final attempt to bond gear to motor shaft, this has 2 pins holding the gears together and resin around teeth to 100% secure it.


Roger

roger 'polymorph' is your friend!

[Tyler Edwards]

I followed everything exactly and my wheel spun fully to one way and then stopped, it sounded like the motor was still spinning too but it was not affecting the wheel

[mrwendal]

Hi, do you think this is doable with the similar but older Driving Force Pro? The optical sensor is different, and there's already something on the back of the FFB motor ... pictures attached. Thanks for any advice you can give.

[electricdevil]

Same here i have a DFP and i want to do this mod for it.Im glad im not the only one 

[Roger_Shrubz]

Hi,

Sorry I never check forum too often for the people who have been pm'ing etc.

Yes you can do the same with the DFP, the optical sensor is already mounted to back of motor so that is one thing less on the tutorial you have to do.

Only problem is that a DFP does not have correct gear inside to use, so you would need to buy a metal gear from ebay etc, and a shaft adapter to reduce the new gear down from 5mm to a 1/8 required shaft size. ( I now run a shaft adapter and metal gear now)


the shaft adapter I use is:
www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXURT7

and the gear is:
www.fast-lad.co.uk/store/revco_hard_pinion_gear_shaft_ho-0700h-10t-p-11950.html?language=sp


only thing is when you drill the holes for moving the motor position, make the screw holes a tiny bit bigger so you can pivot the motor, as the gear is a tiny bit tight I thought.



Cheers

Roger

[Roger_Shrubz]

Also...

when you re-assemble, make sure you test the lock to lock on the tooth rack, or you will never get the wheel to calibrate.



cheers

Roger

[mrwendal]

I have a question - why move the FFB motor to the other side at all? Can this be done in its original location if I cut this plastic that's in the way? The plastic in front of the FFB motor here:



... and then replace the gear with the gear and shaft adapter you linked to? The reason I ask is that I have tools to cut plastic, but I don't have a drill that can drill through metal.



Anyway, I did a little exploratory surgery today. I unplugged this sensor on the DFP:



The wheel calibrated okay, and a quick lap went just as normal ... but more testing is required.

I had a problem - I couldn't remove the backplate. I removed all seven screws:



But the damn thing wouldn't come off ... how much force does it require to come off? I don't want to break anything ...

[shinny1337]

Just picked up the DFP for PS2 games and rFactor. Really hoping your modification works! In to see how it comes out.

[Roger_Shrubz]

Jan 3, 2015 6:22:17 GMT 1 mrwendal said:

I have a question - why move the FFB motor to the other side at all? Can this be done in its original location if I cut this plastic that's in the way? The plastic in front of the FFB motor here:



... and then replace the gear with the gear and shaft adapter you linked to? The reason I ask is that I have tools to cut plastic, but I don't have a drill that can drill through metal.



Anyway, I did a little exploratory surgery today. I unplugged this sensor on the DFP:



The wheel calibrated okay, and a quick lap went just as normal ... but more testing is required.

I had a problem - I couldn't remove the backplate. I removed all seven screws:



But the damn thing wouldn't come off ... how much force does it require to come off? I don't want to break anything ...

for the DFP no you don't have to move motor across, but you will need to make the motor pivot still as it will be too tight on the gears.

Backplate comes off with a little effort as you have x2 bearings on the column holding the plastic backplate to the metal plate with motor attached to etc.